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    • CommentAuthormrsthing
    • CommentTimeAug 19th 2009
     
    I got a nap in this afternoon, but I still can't wait to go to bed.
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      CommentAuthorchris14
    • CommentTimeAug 19th 2009
     
    Are you in bed now?
    • CommentAuthormrsthing
    • CommentTimeAug 19th 2009
     
    No, I'm on the far end of another insomnia attack. There's an adrenalin rush that comes with the hot flashes and sweats, and it just has to run its course. Sometimes it just takes an hour, usually 2-3, and occasionally I wake up at 2:30am and never get back to sleep until the next night.
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      CommentAuthorchris14
    • CommentTimeAug 19th 2009
     
    That's too bad, MrsT. Do you like milk? It might help.
    • CommentAuthormrsthing
    • CommentTimeAug 19th 2009
     
    Thanks, but I can't drink milk. I really can't eat or drink anything at night, or I get terrible indigestion. My psych suggested I talk to my GYN about a blood pressure drug that's used in very small doses to treat these adrenalin rushes. I'll have to give her a call today.

    I'm turning into SUCH an old fart!
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      CommentAuthorchris14
    • CommentTimeAug 19th 2009
     
    I don't have more idea then.

    Or...

    What about putting flowers that smell strong into your room? But too many of them can be dangerous, so, carefully.
    • CommentAuthormrsthing
    • CommentTimeAug 19th 2009
     
    How would that help me sleep?
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      CommentAuthorchris14
    • CommentTimeAug 19th 2009
     
    Their strong smell would make you sleep.
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    Their strong smell would make you sleep.

    Also, Chloroform.


    I've heard that chewing Valerian root is supposed to help insomnia.
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      CommentAuthorchris14
    • CommentTimeAug 20th 2009
     
    Yeah, indeed, chloroform.

    Valerian roots, coke roots... :wink:

    Joint... :bigsmile:
    • CommentAuthormrsthing
    • CommentTimeAug 20th 2009
     
    I can't take Valerian--something about it interfering with the Welbutrin.

    Strong smells would keep me awake. Any kind of sensory stimulation would keep me awake.
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    WELL 'OW ABOUT A BLUNT OBJECT TO THE HEAD?



    ANESTHETICS!!!
    ANESTHETICS!!!
    • CommentAuthormoknbyrd
    • CommentTimeAug 20th 2009
     
    " 'ELLO !!! "

    Nyquil ???
    • CommentAuthormrsthing
    • CommentTimeAug 20th 2009
     
    If I were more tired, I'd worry about it more. But I'm not...I'm quite perky, as a matter of fact! If it keeps up too much longer, I'll call the doctor, so I can go back to being my usual tired, depressed self.

    What am I saying?!

    But I probably should get checked out if it lasts more than a couple of weeks.
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    red clover tea -- for female ailments
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      CommentAuthorchris14
    • CommentTimeAug 21st 2009
     
    Where is Clo, by the way?

    Oh, this is the wrong thread...
    • CommentAuthormrsthing
    • CommentTimeAug 21st 2009
     
    Can I drink it iced, Fan? I'm not even drinking much coffee these days!
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      CommentAuthorcassbtt
    • CommentTimeAug 22nd 2009 edited
     
    We're all writers if we're posting to this forum! Well, I'm on board trying to get people to read my spec scripts, so this is perfect for me! "Spec scripts" means "I wrote 'em but nobody asked for 'em".

    Check them out, and especially the "Epidemiologist" character (written for JC):

    Tempesta Tormenta

    He's more a very kind-hearted character than funny, but a mite standoffish I suppose, so there's some of his usual character's character there.

    It's series of sequels to his friend Terry Gilliam's "12 Monkeys", yes, that awful, sad apocalyptic tale where nobody survives. At least in Terry's "Brazil" his hero survived but didn't know what a mess he was in. In "12 Monkeys", the heroine survived and knew exactly what a mess she was in. Very unpleasant. Check this for the basic premise:

    Heroine's Predicament

    Now, the Epidemiologist character comes into it as one of those quirky scientists in the future who consider those in the "past" to be "them, in that dying world", and they don't care much about them. But our Epidemiologist character takes it upon himself to observe the heroine and her doings as she tries to stop the "disaster" from happening and comes to quite admire the poor lady, especially when he finds out something wonderful that she does for "the future". So for the rest of the "trilogy", he's rather avuncular to our heroes and it's a nice touch. John Cleese would be perfect for the role as I've always thought he had a very warm side to his characters, as if he "played it mean or snarky", but that he wouldn't hurt a fly, really. Like his character in "Fierce Creatures". Well, if nobody wants to read 131, 119 and 132 pages (I haven't actually released the 3rd one yet, because I'm still trying to get the producers of "12 Monkeys" to look at the things and maybe make 'em!), you might want to read "Immunology".

    It's in the lower right side of the website with a picture of a guy (not JC) in a labcoat. Until he commits to the role, I'm not able to put his picture up! Anyway, in this the "Epidemiologist" discusses how our heroine procures a unique "immunity" to the killer virus. I patterned it after John's funny business presentations from the 80's, which were very popular, well-received and for which he was handsomely paid! It's only about 10 pages and is quite "humorous" although it'll help if you're familiar with the "12 Monkeys" movie, which JC wasn't in, of course. But he'd be in my THREE, if we can get them made!

    Enjoy!

    PS. Sorry for being so long- or foul-winded, but this thread's about WRITING, so... !
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    mrs thing, I would think so. I'm so sorry you are having a hard time of it. Walking helps. Okay, no it doesn't. I don't know what to tell you other than screw hard, drink heavily, scream at everybody. You would actually feel better if you gave up pork and red meat products, but I already told you that and you already tried that and so there we go.
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    cassbtt, you trusting soul. There are thieves out there who steal what other people write and then claim it as their own. You simply can't put your work out there unprotected like that! If you want to interest Mr. Cleese's agent in looking at it, there's an address somewhere on here on where to send --
    • CommentAuthormrsthing
    • CommentTimeAug 23rd 2009
     
    I don't eat pork, and I've cut back on meat in general.

    You know what, though? Yesterday, it was hotter than predicted, and more humid than ever, and I just needed to see my old friend the sea. So I drove to the beach and just stuck my legs in the water for a few minutes. Instant relief! My stomach felt better, my mood improved, and I slept a little better (still needed the melatonin, but I'll try to get off it once the weather clears).

    So maybe I'm just stressed out.
    • CommentAuthormrsthing
    • CommentTimeAug 23rd 2009
     
    He has said he doesn't read scripts sent by fans, and I assume his agent just dumps them in the circular file.

    You might be better off shopping he script around, and if you get any bites, say, "My first choice for this role is John Cleese." And include his agent's number.
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      CommentAuthorcassbtt
    • CommentTimeAug 23rd 2009 edited
     
    Hello ladies and gentlemen. cassbtt, you trusting soul. There are thieves out there who steal what other people write and then claim it as their own. You simply can't put your work out there unprotected like that!The script files on the site are secured (can't print or even cut-n-paste from them) and they are, indeed, registered with the Writer's Guild and copyrighted. No sweat there.

    I don't really want this to be about my little scripts, because John's the topic here. I really did write my character "for" him, but that's only because it's a common writers' technique. Now, I'm new at this screenwriting game and thought I just figured it out for myself, but apparently it's a time-tested technique: That when you're creating a new character, imagine one of your favourites in the role and it helps to develop the personality. That's how I came up with JC as the "Epidemiologist".

    Anyway, as to John not reading "fan" scripts, no surprise there. As to his lawyer's dumping them, no surprise there. That's why I'm not trying either. It'd be silly -- unsolicited scripts are a no-no.

    I have only one primary goal and one secondary goal: Getting them to the producers of the original, who are the only ones who could make these film(s) and who would, frankly, be plain daffy/dotty/balmy to pass up my suggestion for the cast. And if Terry's involved, again, he'd love what I've done with the "Epi" character and his silly brethren of scientists.

    The secondary goal, of course, is that if I can't attain the first goal, I'm perfectly happy to let fellow fans enjoy my story. The alternative is for me to "hoard" them protectively on my computer hard drive! Yikes! Not after the work I've done!

    I don't know why, with all the crud being made these days, why they've never contemplated more of this wonderful story. Fans would love it. Meanwhile, we have to put up with movies that have lots of car chases, explosions, kung fu, and F-bombs -- of which I will admit my stories have very little!

    Nevertheless, until I learn goal #1 can't be attained, I am "withholding" the 3rd script, it being the best and containing a significant "6th Sense" type of surprise ending.

    Yes, I'm cruel.

    So go ahead and take a look. But you'll have to have seen the original. And when you read the "Epidemiologist", hear JC's voice. He'd be "loverly" in the role. Have tissues for a couple of sad scenes though. It's not a very happy time in the world's history, after all.

    Thanks for the nice comments.
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    Well, I've read "The Epidemiologist", and it's very interesting! (Not to mention I LOVED 12 Monkeys, so, good for you for trying to make the legacy live on)
    There's no way not to hear JC's voice when reading that, or imagining his gestures - I assume his image would have risen in my head without you even suggesting it :wink:

    Very nicely and understandably written. I'd read the scripts but honestly I have to say that I don't have the time or patience to read books, so there's a slim chance I'd get to it. But I appreciate you putting this up here for us to take a look :)

    Best of luck with everything!
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      CommentAuthorcassbtt
    • CommentTimeAug 23rd 2009
     
    Well, I've read "The Epidemiologist", and it's very interesting!I guess you mean "Immunology", yes. Oh, JC would be wonderful as this fellow. Thanks for the remarks, and I know what you mean about the "tomes" being a long read. No problem.

    I tell you what, "Immunology" is one of my two what I call "mini-scripts". Their purpose is to explain two of the more dense concepts in the main scripts. I guess I imagined them eventually for the DVD of the movies!

    The first, you've seen, is a dense lesson in "immunity". The other is even more fun, and is about "time travel". I hadn't posted it because the last two pages are all about the mind-boggling "ending" of the trilogy, Part 3 currently being withheld.

    So what I've done is remove that part and posted it as-is.

    Enjoy. It'll be there below the "Immunity" miniscript.

    Incidentally, it's a silly ramble and doesn't apply to the way I actually treat time travel in the scripts -- you can't change the past, really.

    More "John Cleese" petulance at the front of the lecture room!

    Tempesta Tormenta
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      CommentAuthorchris14
    • CommentTimeAug 23rd 2009
     
    Cass, as you said, this thread is for writers and poets, so, feel free to write anything you want to. I've checked your websites, your stories look fantastic.
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      CommentAuthorcassbtt
    • CommentTimeAug 23rd 2009
     
    Thanks Chris14. The things have been up since last October and only about 300 have dared to look at the scripts, so I know they're a lot to digest.

    Perhaps the link called "Introduction" in the top-left might best explain the "empathy" that got me to write the stories in the first place, and in the middle is a "logline" link containing single-paragraph blurbs of the three stories to let you know the gist of them.

    MsFannytwinkle-Butt wrote that I should be nervous about them being stolen.

    Well, security measures are in place, but these are for fans to see. That's why I'm here, too. I've already posted notices over the past several months to the fan or official sites of each of the "reprising" performers (Stowe/Meloni/Plummer/Morse etc.) and just felt it was about time I let the John Cleese fans in on the fun, since I wrote one of my characters for him!

    Needless to say I always hope somebody "official" (ie. agent, producer, etc.) steps in the muck, er, inadvertently clicks on the link and jumps when they think they've found the next great "discovery", but such good fortune will likely only happen through my ongoing active searches.

    I sure have some funny stories to tell about "form letters"! Definitely a Python skit there somewhere!

    I appreciate the encouragement from this site, so thanks again.

    I'd contribute more to the forum except for my "hard chair" (read my item under the "non sequitur" topic...!)
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    12 Monkeys was on TV today. It made me think of you. And also, enjoy myself, seeing as it's a f*ing good movie.
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      CommentAuthorchris14
    • CommentTimeAug 24th 2009 edited
     
    You're still optimistic, Cas... Unless you're famous and top-dog, your scripts will be ignored by agents and producers. That's what happened also to me. They won't even read your material.

    Sorry for the pessimistic comment and I hope you'll have more luck with the agents and producers than I had.

    Although, I never tried to 'publish' them on this forum. :bigsmile:
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    I wish you much luck, too, and you certainly put all kinds of work into putting it on a website. I took a peek, but I haven't gone into read yet.

    I think I'm a bit weird in that I don't care if anyone reads my script or not. That's probably not going to get me far, is it?

    haha.

    oh well.
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      CommentAuthorcassbtt
    • CommentTimeAug 24th 2009
     
    Well, I'm not alone, I see. Screenwriters all of us!? It's "fan fiction" until we're published and paid, I suppose. When I started this project I didn't know if I was alone. Check out

    The Super Matrix

    This is a guy's sequel to "The Matrix" -- I guess it'd be Part IV. I read it; not bad. There're lots of us out there!

    Mind you, I don't think John would have a role in a flying kung fu type of movie like that. But he's got a good one in mine!
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    I don't write fan fiction.

    No, it's not fan fiction until we're published and paid. A writer is a writer when a writer writes a written piece of writing. :)

    I'm not a screenwriter. I just wrote a couple of treatments and then I did a script and in the future I will do this one other script, and that's all. I am not a screenwriter.

    You obviously are, but I am not.

    I'm just a writer and sometimes I branch out in other directions. Maybe I am just a tree.
    • CommentAuthormrsthing
    • CommentTimeAug 24th 2009
     
    Miss Thing writes fan fiction for anime, and it's improved her writing skills immensely! But she's a kid; not an adult trying to sell her work. Still, she looked at me with a gleam in her eye a few weeks ago and said, "You know, I've been thinking, and I think you're right, Mom. I *can* turn that story into a novel, or even a series of novels. I've got a few ideas...." and she went on to describe them, some good, some lame. I told her to start writing! Who knows, she may be the next Paolini. Or not, but she could have a lot of fun doing it, anyway.

    Good luck to all writers! I couldn't ever write a book. I don't have enough to say.
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      CommentAuthorcassbtt
    • CommentTimeAug 24th 2009 edited
     
    I couldn't ever write a book. I don't have enough to say. You just have to have something to say and then you'll see how easy it is to write. It's when you "try" to write, without something eating at you or inspiring you, that you can get "writer's block". And "marketing" it is quite another story, and if it takes over your "fun" part it can ruin it completely.

    That's why I talk about "fan fiction" reverently. With the possible and rare exception of getting "paid for it", there's nothing more fun than reading what you've written and getting a kick out of it, even if nobody else does.

    So, someday you might have more time on your hands than you know what to do with, and you'll write a book about Miss Thing and her adventures. Maybe you'll adapt it to some imaginary kingdom or something, add in some villains and helpful magical creatures, and sit there in a coffee shop with your grandkid in the carriage watching you scribble on a pad or tap on a laptop computer. And before you know it you've done a novel, or two, or a trilogy, or a heptalogy.

    And someday somebody finally sees your genius and publishes it.

    And your grandkids and their grandkids thank you! Ha ha!

    The next J.K. Rowling!
    • CommentAuthormrsthing
    • CommentTimeAug 24th 2009
     
    I could probably write a very funny short book about being the parent of a highly gifted child. When she was a toddler, we never stopped laughing! I've read a few things by other parents of highly gifted kids, and am always grateful they wrote, because it's frustrating and lonely sometimes. Highly gifted kids are a species unto themselves, not even like the gifted kids who do well in school. Highly gifted kids just see the world differently.

    Yeah, I've got a few pages of that in me.
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    Mrs. Thing, if this forum is anything to go by, you have a lot to say about a lot of things... :wink: And I mean it as a compliment, or else I wouldn't bother reading. Your posts are often a fascinating read.
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      CommentAuthorchris14
    • CommentTimeAug 25th 2009
     
    MrsThing, I agree with Op. :wink:
    • CommentAuthormrsthing
    • CommentTimeAug 26th 2009
     
    But a whole book's worth of personal anecdotes, pithy sayings, and motherly advice? "Chicken Soup for the Python Lover's Soul"?
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      CommentAuthorchris14
    • CommentTimeAug 26th 2009
     
    Why not, MrsT? With your Chicken soup for the Python Lover's soul you could be invited to Michael Winner.
    • CommentAuthormoknbyrd
    • CommentTimeAug 26th 2009
     
    COOL IDEA ! Do it !
    • CommentAuthormrsthing
    • CommentTimeAug 27th 2009
     
    I HATE those Chicken Soup books! They all start to sound alike after awhile. I *could* write one of those, totally from my own imagination. But I'd feel like a whore if I did.
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    I'd love to read your Chicken Soup. I don't know if you realize this, but some of your insights have taught me a lot about life. Honestly. I think your input is much more valuable than you think.
    • CommentAuthormrsthing
    • CommentTimeAug 27th 2009 edited
     
    I keep forgetting that not everyone here is as "very old, very wise" (thanks, Lozzy!:fierce:) as I am.
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    This is so late (as usual), but I flippin' LOOOOOOOVE red clover tea, fan! I miss having it...I need my own home so I can brew some! *drool*
    • CommentAuthormoknbyrd
    • CommentTimeMar 17th 2010
     
    (peaks from behind the doorway).......
    *ahem*...........
    hello...........
    :neutral:
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      CommentAuthorCPDolly
    • CommentTimeMar 17th 2010
     
    Mmmmhmmm, you're late.
    A few months late.
    • CommentAuthormoknbyrd
    • CommentTimeMar 17th 2010
     
    Yeah. Life was suckin' a lot of wind and I was getting no pleasure from it. If there is a time limit on regulars just let me know. *shuffles feet*
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      CommentAuthorCPDolly
    • CommentTimeMar 17th 2010
     
    No, it's not.
    Actually NOT BEING a regular is much healthier than BEING a regular, I can tell you! I think that all the people in the forum were normal(ish) before their arrival to the Land of Cheese.

    Welcome back to abnormality.
    • CommentAuthormoknbyrd
    • CommentTimeMar 17th 2010
     
    Abby Normal-ity. *LOL* Good one. :)
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      CommentAuthorCPDolly
    • CommentTimeMar 17th 2010
     
    (I f*cking love Young Frankenstein". One of my fav films ever)