Monty Python: New person, new question.

Translation for mrsthing:

John Cleese: And now, the final question. What cab you get cheaply easily and quickly?
Polish: Soap.
John Cleese: No, no ... cheaply easily and quickly?
Polish: Oh. grey soap.
John Cleese: Everyone takes it.
Polish: Bath ?
John Cleese: What can you take cheaply easily and quickly?
Polish: Shower.
John Cleese: Maybe gentle hint.
There is sentence on neon "Money credit in WBK"
Polish: Neon
Polish: Light?
John Cleese: Money credit.
Polish: Face
Polish: cheaply easily and quickly you can be hiten in your face.
John Cleese: We accept the answer?

I was hope that you will like it :)

Well, the English people can probably answer better, but there was a big backlash against Life of Brian by a religious group called the Festival of Light, headed by a woman named Mary Whitehouse (who looked scarily like Eric's mother!). Very public protests, and quite a campaign to get the movie banned. It succeeded in some places, but not in others, and towns in which the movie was banned organized bus trips to other towns to see it.

John and Michael did a wonderful chat show with the Bishop of Southwark and Malcolm Muggeridge, in which the Pythons were attacked and came back more intelligently and even-handedly than the so-called Christians. There's a documentary called "The Secret Life of Brian" that goes into detail about the protests. It's on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDCAJTrF1gg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jJekQmH9W8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9s4ahqaF9Ls
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14HPYBUFs6k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfYJccXRN-Q

The first 4 parts are about 10 minutes each, the last part is about 8 1/2.

There was some controversy about that over here, too. Some conservative preacher named Jerry Falwell insisted that because Tinky Winky was purple, carried a purse, and had a triangle on his head, he was gay, because the color purple and the triangle were secret gay symbols! Ridiculous! Do we even know any of the telly tubbies are male? They're supposed to be babies, aren't they?

I've never understood what the problem is, either. Fear of anyone who's different? Fear of redefining gender roles? I don't know.

I,m going now to Poland for 4 days, i will be watching this forum during this time... i'm now on the airport in Liverpool.

That's why I, hmmmm, 'love' religions of any kind... the best thing about them is that all of them advertise themselves as caring and loving things. The religions are supposed to be created because they want to accept and love people and instead of this they generate conflicts and wars. They hate gays, they hate other religions, it doesn't matter if all of the f...ing religions are created on the same basement (not only Christian religions, but also the Jewish and Islam have the same roots!), they hate Paganism, which is actually the main root of all of modern religions, and, of course modern religions, especially the Christians and especially the Catholics use lots of stuff from Paganism. They hate science, they hate animals, they hate women, they hate everything. And they advertise LOVE and PEACE... How very interesting... And not to talk about the pedophile priests and sex and gay-scandals in the Church... and their involvements in wars, and the Nazi-stuff during the WW2, etc... and the wars between different religions... Crusades, etc. OK, I've finished it...

This topic can make me cross! Sorry, I didn't mean to offend anybody... only the f...ing religions...

Yes, MrsThing, I agree with everything you wrote. But they advertise themselves as loving and caring... And that is why they are dangerous, cos people believe in them... and not in God or whatever...

I'm not against people who believe in God or the Bible or anything else, I'm against religions. I also believe in things, although I don't know in what exactly, but in something supernatural or transcendental. Something that is above us and beyond the science we can explain or even see.

We have organizations like that in the US, too. My best friend married a man who used to be a counselor in one. He had never been gay, so I don't know how that worked. The whole idea of trying to force someone to change their sexual orientation made me sick, and I didn't want to listen to him spout all the lines I already knew.

These organizations train people to "act" heterosexual: women wear makeup and dresses and and practice "feminine" behaviors approved by the trainers; men watch sports and fix cars and lift weights and practice "masculine" behaviors. So they turn into Stepford Christians, brainwashed into a set of beliefs and behaviors that are totally wrong for them.

Conservative Christians in this country believe either that people become gay as a result of sexual abuse (remembered or forgotten), or that they were led astray by gays who tried to recruit them when they were "young, and still questioning their sexuality". I don't know about anyone else, but I never had to question my sexuality. I just knew, and when I asked gay friends when they "discovered" they were gay, they said, "I didn't "discover" it--I just always knew." I've known many--too many--women who were sexually abused by their fathers, and/or neglected by their mothers, and not one of them became a lesbian. And sheesh--just because you're a woman who's good at fixing cars or a guy who likes to knit doesn't make you gay. I've known heterosexual people who had those talents. Unusual, yes, but not gay. When I was in college, I was propositioned twice by lesbians, both of them very feminine women who wore dresses and makeup. (I turned them down as gently as I could; I know I seem fairly butch to some people.) Most of the gay guys I've known enjoyed watching sports with friends just as much as hetero guys. The arguments of the so-called healers are based on outdated and outlandish stereotypes.

If someone told me, "Look, you've got to start having sex only with women or not having sex at all, or you're going to hell", I'd just say, "Right. See you there."

Yes, Raf, I agree, religion is only a theory. Enjoy your holiday!

Czeszcz, Raf.

mrsthing, sometimes I'm like an ulcer on the ass ;p It's hard to lost me :P

That's fine, Raf. We need people to show up and say stuff once in awhile.

Raf,

good comments about religion. Organized religion can be a terrible thing. Better to just believe in what you believe in and honor it in your own way.

Have a safe journey!

I don't go far, as a rule! Sometimes, it gets pretty busy and I get swamped. But I'm always thinking about y'all!

Jersey, the most terrible in religion is , that it's always organized. Why can't be God only for God, but not for priests, politicians, wars.... shit....

I have different experience with organized Christianity. I started my journey with Christianity in catholic church. In Poland Catholic church is very strong conected with politicians. That's why i thing, that they lost te right way of their destiny. 5 years ago I changed church. I'm protestant now. The first one church, what I joined, was conected with Baptist's church. It was good experience. Later i was traveling from church to church. I finished in Luteran's church... why.. I don't know, but in Luteran's church i didn't feel priest preasure puted on people, who was coming to church. It' easier if you can feel distance, but little distance between you and priest.

I had very good pastor in my first protestant church, but after couple of the mounths i felt something like this, that he wanted participate in my life to strong, to hard, in to big percent. But even i felt something like this, i thing, that he was right person in the right place.

But now something completly different. Do you remember my first question on this forum. I wrote in this case to Mr. Michael Palin. I will put here part of the answer, but very important. Not from him, from another guy who was writing in his name.

"Michael’s away at the moment, but I think I can help with your query.



We were based in Bradford for about a week on Meaning of Life – staying at the hotel now called Hilton in Norfolk Gardens, behind the Town Hall. We shot the Grim Reaper sequence up in the Dales at Malham Tarn, and various parts of the Every Sperm is Sacred song and dance in the area. The main backstreet bit was done in Colne or Burnley, but some of it – the cartwheeling nuns, I think – in Lister Park on Manningham Lane in front of the Cartwright Hall."

Now i can die ... very happy ;p

Congratulations, Raf! That's a nice bit of trivia.

Trivia isn't trivial! I loved reading Michael's diaries for his personal and "in the moment" observations of being in Monty Python. Some of the stuff he said about John was LOL funny!

Oh, happy early birthday, Raf!!!

Happy Birthday Raf. Stick around but remember to be a bit silly at times!

Thank you very much. Zelda, I'm always bit silly :) Lozzykinz, i can change name especialy for you.... :) Maybe ... Luise, it's so neutral :)

Lozzyiknz, when my parrents gave to me this name, they didn't know, that this bastards will take your's boyfriend. So especially for you i can change it :) Don't be sad please :)

Now birthday joke. Do you know, how man can kill himself in the easiest way ?
He can jump from his ego level to his IQ level.

Ouch!